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#1: Really? Author: MothMan, Location: NH

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:27 am
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Well, I just wanted to come on here and let you all know that I am not a hacker. I have some good games and all the sudden I hack according to some of you. Well thanks for the comp when I do good and thanks for not saying I suck when I have multiable bad games in a row.. Anyway, I still enjoy your servers......

Not to mention any names

Tuesday, May 31, 2011
12:08 AM - ^**********BK*: I just want you to know your being speced rith now and if I was you I would leave or turn it off before you get baned\
12:08 AM - MothMan: lm**o! Dude watch all my sh** I don't hack
12:10 AM - ^**********BK*: its not me it is the top brass and there running some kind of scan that well tell if you are or not im just trying to warn you
12:11 AM - MothMan: lol well thanks man. but i don't hack so no worries.... I have good legit games and some real bad 1's at times... but thanks for warning me if I hacked... lol
^**********BK* is now Offline.

Not being rude but run all the scans on me you want.. I don't mind.....

#2: Re: Really? Author: LEGEND, Location: Hell Town, CO

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:46 am
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The behaviour of that member is not sanctioned by the Clan. They are the actions of a sole person bent probably getting pawned by you. I am sorry you had to go through that - especially with his poor spelling Razz

#3: Re: Really? Author: HeHawKilLer, Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:51 am
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When did we get programs to scan people with? I wish i got that...lol!

#4: Re: Really? Author: just-die, Location: wisconsin

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:05 pm
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i wish you would post the name,BK members should not be harassing other players like this

#5: Re: Really? Author: smile,

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:41 pm
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mothman come on ts and talk to me or pm me the name of the member. sounds like an imposter but who know

#6: Re: Really? Author: Silexx, Location: SRQ, FL

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:32 pm
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Our Central-Radar-Analysis-Program or CRAP Detector monitors all players to the supreme overlord. We know you are trying to contaminate our precious bodily fluids with your fluoridation, which will never work - since all BK members drink rain water and pure grain alcohol. If I were you I would be more concerned with Attack Plan R!

BTW: All Your Bases Are Belong To Us!

No worries mate - this is polite and friendly. Of course I am of the camp that believes that Dr. Strangelove got it right - hee hee!

#7: Re: Really? Author: SuniGunz,

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:14 pm
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Im puttin on my aluminim foil helmet to evade detection and rubber boots to keep from gettin any of this stuff on my shoes Very Happy

!!!!

#8: Re: Really? Author: target,

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:23 pm
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It is to bad people are like that, thats why I don't play bc, i will stick with waw...ran into a lot of BK playing waw, not one that i didnt like, I buy all the games when they come out, just never got into bc, maybe i will load it again, can't wait for Duke Nukem to come out...lol will pick that one up to.

#9: Re: Really? Author: H1N1,

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:44 pm
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My cousin a hacker haha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......i wonder what people said about me when i was pawning the BK servers Laughing

oh yeah..i willlll be back sooooon Twisted Evil

#10: Re: Really? Author: MothMan, Location: NH

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:58 pm
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Lol! I figured he was bull Sh*****... But this wasn't the first time this particular member has done this... So, I baited him with a friend reguest on steam just for this reason.... To post it in here so some of you would know what is going on.... I don't really care, it just gets annoying after a while.....

#11: Re: Really? Author: H1N1,

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:06 pm
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oh oh oh i knowwwwwww who it is Very Happy

#12: Re: Really? Author: UchiMata, Location: Northampton, UK

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:49 pm
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Guys, please keep it polite and friendly! Don't turn this into an attack on individuals.
Those of us who play with you a lot know how good you are - and we all have good/bad games. Most times I am on the losing end, but very occasionally I do get the top spot.

#13: Re: Really? Author: H1N1,

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:59 pm
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im just messin around idk who it is....bad humor i guess on my behalf

and you should be getting the top spot more now that im not around uchi....dont let bugboy get away with even 1 good game Smile

#14: Re: Really? Author: TakerDeep2008,

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:09 am
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I want mothman to teach me how to use the ballistic knife, or put up a video like your cousin did of the Tomahawk, which BTW i learned how to throw really well now thanks to H1N1.

#15: Re: Really? Author: H1N1,

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:10 am
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heyyyyy that my weapon of choice darnit Razz

#16: Re: Really? Author: TakerDeep2008,

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:11 am
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Mine now thanks to your video...hehe

Ive hawked you twice now since learning it...buahahaha

#17: Re: Really? Author: H1N1,

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:24 am
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Razz

#18: Re: Really? Author: APOSTLE, Location: Robins Air Force Base Georgia

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:19 am
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LOL! I was playing with Mothman last night and was marvelling at his handywork. Sure hope this can stay relatively low key on both sides. Folks sometimes say things in the heat of match that they wouldn't normally say and this may be one of those. Don't know, but it sounds like you have a pretty good head on your shoulders Mothman, so this should just roll off. God Bless!

#19: Re: Really? Author: MothMan, Location: NH

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:01 am
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LOL! Thanks Apostle.. I have a Ballistics vid somewhere in the forums Takerdeep and I'm working on another one right now.. Some games i'm right on and others I die everytime I pull them out.... Anyway, all ready forgotten.....

#20: Re: Really? Author: PewPewDude, Location: Cheyenne

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:20 am
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I have been called out for hacking a few time, altho not by a BK member. i get a huge grin on my face when i read that cuz then i know im doin good! Cool

But it never fails, the very next game i pull an astounding 8 kills with 15 or more deaths. Rolling Eyes

#21: Re: Really? Author: Silexx, Location: SRQ, FL

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:41 pm
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I too was called out for hacking during a match once.... I picked up a crate with a gunship, then got my kills streaks Napalm, cobra, gunship, and then got another crate with a cobra. I had a mad score with only 3 deaths, I was called a hacker. It was just luck on the two crates plus my kill streaks. Not to mention my Napalm strike was stellar right on the area where they had all spawned (killed 5 with the Napalm). I wish I could get scores like that. Anyway - this dude called me out as a Hacker and then said that BK is just a bunch of hackers...... I didn't bother to respond and he quit the server after the match.

When I was a newbie and getting tossed around like a rag doll with heavily inverted scores of 1:20 I too thought there was NO WAY that others could be that good, however with a little practice and some skills (plus some amazing skills streaks) it is possible to hit the 50+ kills.

I am sure there are hackers out there - but I think there are more people that accuse people of hacking and less actual hacking - well that is my personal experience.

Hey Mothman - just play on my side from now on...hee hee....

Silly people, tricks are for kids!

#22: Re: Really? Author: NightWolf, Location: New Jersey

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:10 pm
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Just for kicks yesterday, I hopped on a 24/7 Nuke server as I normally would to test weapons loadouts...low and behold there was a hacker...rather blatent actually since this person was using their hacking website in their name...and of course it was rather easy to tell that he/she was hacking...ie a score of 124 kills and 8 deaths or along those lines...

Most times these morons frequent the 24/7 Nuke servers to get their laughs, but then some will trickle out onto regular servers to see if the program they paid for is truly working...and these programs they buy are getting more and more clever as well as elusive to anti-hacking tools...

How to spot them?

Easy...first off they'll have a high/very high score with few if at all deaths...now sure there are legit players that can score 32-2 kinds of scores, be it that they used the chopper/hind/dogs, etc or just plain shot that well...but the hackers have a tell (poker term meaning a tip off)...they score headshots all the time...I mean all the time...probably because the morons don't take off the auto aim function...

"So what if they did take off the auto aim Wolf?"

Well there's other ways to spot them...while they think they're being clever, you can easily spec them and see that they follow their targets as they come through buildings and such and fire before the target comes into view...

Sure one with Ninja Pro can easily hear the enemy approach, or gun fire could tip one off...but those that use these hacks will consistently follow targets, turning wildly to aim at peole who aren't even close by yet...

Sadly, the worst of the scum will actually play patiently as to not tip themselves off...they're the ones who will be friendly and seem harmless so they're not as easy to spot as the more flambouyant ones are...

How do I know all this?

Easy...from being a long time gamer from the beginning of multiplayer shooters...to back in the day working with Orange Smoothie and Punkbuster devs to combat this...from being the former Lt. Army Cmdr of TAW who had to watch and sift through countless vids of possible hackers on multiple FPS games...many are easy to spot while others not so much...

The main thing to do here as a community is be diligent in our attempts to combat this trash that may happen upon our servers...but in doing so we need to not jump to accusations without having concrete proof...to not call a person out in any form be it on TS or on our servers...you know the drill...if you suspect, record it and then let the Officers and leaders review the evidence...they will take the neccessary steps to deal with a problem if they conclude there is one...

Remember: there are players out there that are 'that' good...also remember to take into account what might seem like a "how the heck" shot could've been caused by latency...

#23: Re: Really? Author: Nubsauce,

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:41 pm
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H1 I thought Viral infections known as golden b.b.'s were your weapon of choice

#24: Re: Really? Author: Silexx, Location: SRQ, FL

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:11 pm
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Wolf,

Interesting points you make - I have not seen too many hackers in my experience and even if I suspect they might - I never ever call them out, but rather would report "suspicious activity" to the admin and let them do the investigative research.

I have had 70+ scores with few deaths on a run-n-gun server and was suspected of hacking, but it was just kill streak rewards. Was it a crazy score - yeah - but with enough gunships, choppers, and napalm it can happen. I can also clean shoot a head shot across the map with iron sights with my FAL - not that hard (maps are small). Not that I am able to get those type of scores often, but with some lucky kill streaks they are not impossible. It is very hard for me to get that kind of score on BK because the crouch makes it a slower game and thus lower kills. However - I have several times been in the 30+ kills with few deaths. Part of that depends on who you are playing against/with and your kill streaks. I notice that if I get H1N1 and a few others on MY side - with a few kill streaks - I can get easily into the 20+ range and can often get into the 30+ range and maybe even the 40+. However, if I am up against very good players - bill4short, kurupt, h1n1, mysteryshot and a few others - my score can drop. It also depends on the map, which side you start on, etc. I have favorite maps and sides - that can make a huge difference in my score.

I suggest, that we not ever call someone a hacker in TS or in game chat. If you suspect them from hacking notify the admin of "suspicious activity" - It makes us look bad to call someone a hacker who might just be a darn good player and even if they are hacking - it makes us look like whiners.

Sure we will get some hackers - admin can deal with them. However, if you see me on a run-n-gun with a 70+ score with few deaths and a few good head shots - don't just assume I am hacking, cause I am not.

However, I have also been known to have a 5:30 scores as well - playing against better players and not getting the killstreak rewards. Just because I am getting a serious beat down, doesn't mean that others are hacking - just means that I am not playing as well or getting those kill streak rewards. I CAN be very frusterating.

Just my 2 cents....

#25: Re: Really? Author: NightWolf, Location: New Jersey

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:05 pm
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Well said Silexx...

That's just it...we all have really good days and really bad days...some days certain maps just groove while others falter...there are people who stay consistent, other times they too have their bad days...

On run around maps I've ever gone 40-2, etc...and on longer duration maps that I like playng such as HQ, DEM, and so on I've scored in the 100's with low fatalities...other times I had the wind knocked right out of my sails...I just try to get back in the saddle and if it's just not meant to be then I'll call it a night...

Regardless, my theory is just enjoy the game and the company you play it with...if anything questionable comes up, let an admin know in private...then go back and do your best and have fun...

#26: Re: Really? Author: Luke, Location: Grand Rapids, MI

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:53 pm
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I think maybe we should do background checks on all members... Hmmmm Very Happy

(Older timers will get a laugh from that one.)

GOA.Luke*BK* Laughing

#27: Re: Really? Author: HeHawKilLer, Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:37 pm
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Ha ha ha ha...you're first Luke!

#28: Re: Really? Author: UchiMata, Location: Northampton, UK

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:19 pm
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As Groucho Marx said 'i wouldn't want to be a member of any club that let me join' !

Wink

#29: Re: Really? Author: H1N1,

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:47 pm
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Nubsauce wrote (View Post):

H1 I thought Viral infections known as golden b.b.'s were your weapon of choice

lol 1st its the tomahawk...then the golden b.b's...........................and besides no one has ever called me a hacker Laughing

#30: Re: Really? Author: MothMan, Location: NH

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:31 pm
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I have cuz!! lol.... You all make great points..... If anything, this post will give people a new or better perspective of what's actually going on and will retain their erge to call "Hacker!!".

#31: Re: Really? Author: HeHawKilLer, Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:36 pm
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Hackers are pretty easy to spot. But there are the "smart" ones that still hack makng it not so obvious. I guarantee 15% of the people we think are legit...aren't.

#32: Re: Really? Author: Silexx, Location: SRQ, FL

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:54 pm
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H1N1 wrote (View Post):

Nubsauce wrote (View Post):

H1 I thought Viral infections known as golden b.b.'s were your weapon of choice

lol 1st its the tomahawk...then the golden b.b's...........................and besides no one has ever called me a hacker

H1N1 - you couldn't hack your way out of a wet paper bag!

#33: Re: Really? Author: MothMan, Location: NH

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:58 pm
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HeHawKilLer wrote (View Post):

Hackers are pretty easy to spot. But there are the "smart" ones that still hack makng it not so obvious. I guarantee 15% of the people we think are legit...aren't.

Right, just like the serial killer that has lived next door to you for the last 20 years.... You never really do know Twisted Evil

#34: Re: Really? Author: HeHawKilLer, Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:02 pm
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MothMan wrote (View Post):

Right, just like the serial killer that has lived next door to you for the last 20 years.... You never really do know

You're not that guy are you Moth? Wink

#35: Re: Really? Author: MothMan, Location: NH

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:16 pm
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LOL! Not this guy........ Smile

#36: Re: Really? Author: H1N1,

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:24 am
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Silexx wrote (View Post):

H1N1 wrote (View Post):

Nubsauce wrote (View Post):

H1 I thought Viral infections known as golden b.b.'s were your weapon of choice

lol 1st its the tomahawk...then the golden b.b's...........................and besides no one has ever called me a hacker

H1N1 - you couldn't hack your way out of a wet paper bag!

you got that right silexx ..im lucky i can turn my pc on everyday Wink

and as far as bugboy being a serial killer...like he said you never really know Twisted Evil

#37: Re: Really? Author: Crossfire_X,

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:30 am
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Just had to say, as someone who gets accused of hacking on the regular, that this thread is awesome. I know the point is probably moot, but I've played with Mothman quite a bit, and if he is hacking, he needs to get some new ones. haha! Just kidding man, always a pleasure playing with you guys. And H1N1, please don't hit me with any more tomahawks. It's humiliating.

#38: Re: Really? Author: Kortuse,

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:04 pm
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Luke wrote (View Post):

I think maybe we should do background checks on all members... Hmmmm (Older timers will get a laugh from that one.)

GOA.Luke*BK*

LOL too too funny Luke!!! made me laugh when I first read it oh geeze

#39: Re: Really? Author: Happy, Location: Alexandria, Ontario, Canada

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:59 pm
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Watched HiNi's video multiple times and still can't throw 1 to save my life. lol
Mothman I have played many games against you and you have some great games, but you do have your share of bad games also most BK members are fair and honest people that enjoy our style of play and police the servers with dignity and respect, don't let 1 bad apple ruin your time with us.

#40: Re: Really? Author: MothMan, Location: NH

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:35 pm
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Crossfire_X wrote (View Post):

Just had to say, as someone who gets accused of hacking on the regular, that this thread is awesome. I know the point is probably moot, but I've played with Mothman quite a bit, and if he is hacking, he needs to get some new ones. haha! Just kidding man, always a pleasure playing with you guys. And H1N1, please don't hit me with any more tomahawks. It's humiliating.

LOL! Cross, you need to keep me up to date with these things!! Wink

@Moneyman. I believe I might just be a lifer here... Cool peeps, great servers.... Well, until the end of the world, 12/21/12!! Are you prepared!!!! ?

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