AlexDaUA
Joined: Aug 04, 2009
Posts: 48
Location: Nashville, TN
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:34 pm
I've heard some people talking about building gaming machines recently and would like to offer this piece of experience. I own a gaming rig as well, and been building some here and there since 17 (so for a whopping 7 years now ha-ha). I usually concentrated on CPU, memory, graphics card - the usual...
But let me tell you, all that is almost NOTHING compared to something we often overlook - hard drive (HDD) upgrade. Two ways to upgrade HDD - buy a faster one, or make a RAID configuration. RAID used to be complicated and scary, but it's built-in on most modern gaming motherboards and using it is very simple and easy, requiring no additional tools or software.
I did try a faster HDD once - bought a 10,000 RPM Raptor - and it was better, but no sigar b/c of sacrifices I had to make. 10k HDDs don't store much data (you'll be hard-pressed to find 500GB 10k HDD) and they usually are loud.
So what I did then is put RAID 0+1... I bought 4 identical hard drives - 7.2k RPM Samsung SpinPoint F1, 750GB each, w/ 32MB cache (model HD753LJ, in case you want to duplicate setup, they go for cheap now, about $75 each). Then I went to my BIOS and enabled RAID. Then I entered RAID utility on computer restart and selected 0+1 RAID for those 4 HDDs. Done! You just need to do all this before installing Windows or be ready to have everything wiped out. Windows sees all 4 as a single hard drive of 1.5GB (750GB + 750GB) and never even realizes that there's a RAID behind the scenes.
Improvement? One word: amazing!! Applications install insanely fast, games load in blink of an eye (COD starts in literally 3 seconds... map loads take about 5-6 seconds), and overall PC feels like a race car. Microsoft Office (most apps in the package) installed in less than 5 minutes, for example. Heavy apps that took 30 mins to install usually now take 5-8. Video drivers install in maybe 45-60 seconds. Windows updates are very fast once downloaded, etc. Moving files/etc. is also of course super fast. Even if I try to type password as soon as Windows login screen appears after boot, my anti-virus is loaded and Windows is ready to go (hard drive stops working) within about 8 seconds. Basically it's like switching from single core CPU to dual-core, but for hard drives. If you look up real tests online, usual improvement is about 70% on reading speed compared to single drive. But it feels like 200%, I don't kid.
Another benefit? Time saver. Some of us reinstall Windows every 6-12 months b/c of speed degradation... well, you need almost twice as long for speed to degrade to unusable level with these drives b/c they are almost twice as fast. How much does 1 day of reinstalling everything cost you? Well there you go, those 4 HDDs just got that much cheaper
Now some explanation for why I chose this setup. RAID 0+1 is a combination of RAID 0 (performance) and RAID 1 (reliability).
RAID 0 occurs first: when you write information to hard disk, it's split in half - one half is written to one HDD, another half - to another. So you cut writing time in almost half. Same goes for reading - one half is read from one HDD, and another - from another. Read time also goes up a lot.
RAID 1 kicks in after that: the info from the two hard drives is then duplicated to the other 2 you got (since we have 4 total). This is in case one of the first 2 fails - the RAID will then automatically switch to the backup pair... you can take out the failed hard drive, plug new one in, and it will copy info from a backup drive onto the new drive and you're back to having 4 working drives, seamlessly.
Why not just RAID 0? That would be just as fast, yes, but RAID 0 is less reliable than using just one drive. Basically chances of failure increase at least twice b/c if one drive fails, the other is useless, but real increase is more than twice. There is science and statistics behind this, you can look it up, but real-world experience tells that RAID 0 configurations fail more often than normal drives. This is the price you pay for speed. That said, you should still be able to go years before replacing a hard drive, on average.
RAID 1 takes care of this by making a mirror. Not only do you have a spare backup automagically (no need to back anything but most important stuff anymore!), you can have at least one HDD fail without problems (one of mine failed just last week, actually, or maybe earlier actually... but I didn't even notice until I saw warning message during boot last week), you can actually have up to 2 drives fail as long as those 2 are the complimenting halves - the mirrored two will cover you until you replace failed drives.
Hope this helps someone. I've spent a ton of money on other components before (such as $1100 quad-core CPU) trying to have a race car computer... only to realize that a $200 CPU with $300 hard-drive setup will beat any $1100 CPU with $100 hard drive, by a wide margin. I'll never build a computer from now on without RAID 0+1 - I'll just buy little cheaper other components to have money for the hard drives. Make sure to pick nice drives - SpinPoint F1s been really good for me so far, for almost a year now, and they are not nearly as loud as 10k Raptor.
If you have any questions, just ask, will be happy to help. Cheers!
Last edited by AlexDaUA on Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:04 pm; edited 1 time in total
But let me tell you, all that is almost NOTHING compared to something we often overlook - hard drive (HDD) upgrade. Two ways to upgrade HDD - buy a faster one, or make a RAID configuration. RAID used to be complicated and scary, but it's built-in on most modern gaming motherboards and using it is very simple and easy, requiring no additional tools or software.
I did try a faster HDD once - bought a 10,000 RPM Raptor - and it was better, but no sigar b/c of sacrifices I had to make. 10k HDDs don't store much data (you'll be hard-pressed to find 500GB 10k HDD) and they usually are loud.
So what I did then is put RAID 0+1... I bought 4 identical hard drives - 7.2k RPM Samsung SpinPoint F1, 750GB each, w/ 32MB cache (model HD753LJ, in case you want to duplicate setup, they go for cheap now, about $75 each). Then I went to my BIOS and enabled RAID. Then I entered RAID utility on computer restart and selected 0+1 RAID for those 4 HDDs. Done! You just need to do all this before installing Windows or be ready to have everything wiped out. Windows sees all 4 as a single hard drive of 1.5GB (750GB + 750GB) and never even realizes that there's a RAID behind the scenes.
Improvement? One word: amazing!! Applications install insanely fast, games load in blink of an eye (COD starts in literally 3 seconds... map loads take about 5-6 seconds), and overall PC feels like a race car. Microsoft Office (most apps in the package) installed in less than 5 minutes, for example. Heavy apps that took 30 mins to install usually now take 5-8. Video drivers install in maybe 45-60 seconds. Windows updates are very fast once downloaded, etc. Moving files/etc. is also of course super fast. Even if I try to type password as soon as Windows login screen appears after boot, my anti-virus is loaded and Windows is ready to go (hard drive stops working) within about 8 seconds. Basically it's like switching from single core CPU to dual-core, but for hard drives. If you look up real tests online, usual improvement is about 70% on reading speed compared to single drive. But it feels like 200%, I don't kid.
Another benefit? Time saver. Some of us reinstall Windows every 6-12 months b/c of speed degradation... well, you need almost twice as long for speed to degrade to unusable level with these drives b/c they are almost twice as fast. How much does 1 day of reinstalling everything cost you? Well there you go, those 4 HDDs just got that much cheaper
Now some explanation for why I chose this setup. RAID 0+1 is a combination of RAID 0 (performance) and RAID 1 (reliability).
RAID 0 occurs first: when you write information to hard disk, it's split in half - one half is written to one HDD, another half - to another. So you cut writing time in almost half. Same goes for reading - one half is read from one HDD, and another - from another. Read time also goes up a lot.
RAID 1 kicks in after that: the info from the two hard drives is then duplicated to the other 2 you got (since we have 4 total). This is in case one of the first 2 fails - the RAID will then automatically switch to the backup pair... you can take out the failed hard drive, plug new one in, and it will copy info from a backup drive onto the new drive and you're back to having 4 working drives, seamlessly.
Why not just RAID 0? That would be just as fast, yes, but RAID 0 is less reliable than using just one drive. Basically chances of failure increase at least twice b/c if one drive fails, the other is useless, but real increase is more than twice. There is science and statistics behind this, you can look it up, but real-world experience tells that RAID 0 configurations fail more often than normal drives. This is the price you pay for speed. That said, you should still be able to go years before replacing a hard drive, on average.
RAID 1 takes care of this by making a mirror. Not only do you have a spare backup automagically (no need to back anything but most important stuff anymore!), you can have at least one HDD fail without problems (one of mine failed just last week, actually, or maybe earlier actually... but I didn't even notice until I saw warning message during boot last week), you can actually have up to 2 drives fail as long as those 2 are the complimenting halves - the mirrored two will cover you until you replace failed drives.
Hope this helps someone. I've spent a ton of money on other components before (such as $1100 quad-core CPU) trying to have a race car computer... only to realize that a $200 CPU with $300 hard-drive setup will beat any $1100 CPU with $100 hard drive, by a wide margin. I'll never build a computer from now on without RAID 0+1 - I'll just buy little cheaper other components to have money for the hard drives. Make sure to pick nice drives - SpinPoint F1s been really good for me so far, for almost a year now, and they are not nearly as loud as 10k Raptor.
If you have any questions, just ask, will be happy to help. Cheers!
Last edited by AlexDaUA on Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:04 pm; edited 1 time in total